#3 Chinmaya: Lusty Desires, Taoism, Vegetarianism, Adam&Eve
Sunday, July 18th, 2010 at
1:05 am
JorgeLuisJaureguiM asked:
Swami Chinmayananda, renowned Vedantic Master, answers questions from his students at Humboldt State University at Arcada, CA, during one of the 10-day spiritual camps he held yearly during his visits to the US in the course of 20 years.
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Tao (the “Way”) is another name — the Chinese name — for Ultimate Reality, or Brahman. Original Taoism teaches that the word is only a suggestion — an algebraic symbol, so to speak — for the Ineffable, for that Truth which cannot be expressed in words. Tao — modern spelling Dao — is not a god or goddess.
YOU’RE RIGHT! Study this man closer (Google ‘Chinmaya Mission’), and you’ll find out that he was never a teacher of ANYTHING objective. At most, he was a journalist in his youth.
He later was the self-proclaimed student of “SUBJECTIVE SCIENCE”. I.e., the real answers reside in your own heart. You only need to remove the ignorance that prevents you from getting the answers you seek.
Try it.
I met him in the early 90s, when I was a child, and he was nearing the end of his life. He was by no means ****** then. He was only ever human. At best, you can say he was –ignorant– here, for not being able to fully answer questions about Taoism. But, he strived to be a CONSTANT student, all the way until his bodily death. These days, many stop learning, and call themselves masters of life at the ripe old age of 55.
Let me explain:
Everything is energy and there is nothing like good and bad energy. The attitude behind the expression is called as guna and bhagwan is guna ateet and is beyond sattwa too.
Sex energy is the most powerful energy in the world and is indeed the reason for sustenance of this world and the same energy tranforms in to OJAS when reversed up wards from mooladhara chakra.
I beg to differ. There indeed is good (satwic) and bad (tamasic) energy. That which elevates you to a higher consciousness (as during meditation) is satwic. Sexual impulse was meant for procreation but getting attached to it brings the consciousness down. That is why most great prophets and spriritual teachers are also celebate!
Please note that Lust is at the mind and not at the body. If we become aware of it we already have won the battle.
Though it does not matter if we feel a master to be great or not for us being mere mortals and also that the majesty of Niagara does not get decreased by someone spitting at it.
In regard to Swami Chinmayananda, i have personally interacted with him and HE is indeed a great MASTER who demonstrated all that he spoke.
We cant put a 100 watt bulb in a 10000watt source. For us to tune into a higher wavelength we need to get out of lower wavelength into other side of spectrum.
Let me explain in a possible way:
All energy is divine and there is nothing called as bad and good energy, having said that we need to divert the sex energy(Most powerful as it is a living source of sustenance and the reason why we tend to feel blissful at that moment as we forget ourselves) into more promising channels as we need to understand that to realize god we need to fine tune our energies with the source.
he is ****** against chinese
I really think vegetarianism is the way to go against animal cruelty. What I found interesting was Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, in his video, The Joy of Liberating Animals on Youtube, advised his students to turn vegetarian to create the causes to build an animal sanctuary or shelter. This is to show their commitment to care for animals instead of just saying they care. We dont really care for animals if we keep eating them every meal!
I’m sorry Thesaral, I did not mean to rate you comment as bad, but the opposite. I just clicked on the wrong “hand”.
Dear GNOSISIGLO21
We know one secret. The secret is you don’t seem to respect and realize the depth of your own question. If you have any idea about importance of your question about transmuting sexual energies, and if you are even little bit sincere and serious, you would not expect it to be answered in Comments section of YouTube. Do you think it is such a simple thing to answer and share here? There are books, tapes and whole library out there to address it. Hope this secret helps you.
these people you just mentioned, they have different levels of spitituality.
but, why are we still in the same level?
maybe we don’t know the secret or do we?
well it just happened that swami sivananda and master samael were real good friend, even do, sivananda at the beggining was kind of upset at my master him reabiling the sectrets if the arcanum, but that he realises that my master had the divinity permition to do so, so he work with my master together.
but, the arcanum was kept secret, do you guys know the secret?
than share it with me.
thank you.
well it just happened that swami sivananda and master samael were real good friend, even do, sivananda at the beggining was kind of upset at my master him reabiling the sectrets if the arcanum, but that he realises that my master had the divinity permition to do so, so he work with my master together.
but, the arcanum was kept secret, do you guys know the secret?
than share it with me.
thank you.
when you have a ilusion, the other side of the mind is desilusion, the positive and negative of the mind.
on the other hand, we must never have a ilusion with anybody, but perception.
so please tell me if your master was ever married, and how could it be that lust is only a necesity of the body, if it’s by the lust and fornication that we have fallen in to these level?
now, tell me, what you do with your sexual energies, do you loose them, or you trasmutate them, and if you do, tell me how?
Dear GNOSISIGLO21
What delusion to think you found great secret of all! We need to be bright to even recognize brightness!
If you think Swami Sivananda is real master, it only helps to know that the very name Chinmayananda by which he is known all over world, was given to him by none other than Sivananda himself. Sivananda encouraged him to teach Vedanta and personally prefer listening to him talk when in his ashram. Not looking at others, but looking and investigating oneself is wanted.
well, it just happened to that i found a great secret of all!! is sexual alchemy, from real master samael.
by appearance i can tell this man is not iluminated, he does not know anything about espiritual sex, he sounded ridiculous, the energy is not in his heart.
just look at him.
the only master i know he was a real master is swami sivananda, and he is very brite in the espiritual level.
you guys i don’t thing you even come out of your bodies to investigate, an still have sexual problems.
Dear GNOSISIGLO21
You could not see typos and errors in your simple sentences. Yet, you claim to see and judge someone else! Seeing clearly needs lot more than having your two eyes wide open.
Does it matter if you say he is not a master? Recognition is not by opinion polls, but by ones own experience. We know sun by its radiance and warmth, not because some one said. So too, a master is known by the radiance and warmth of love and inspiration we derive from his teaching and living.
You are so correct. Thank you for your insight. I was fortunate to have personally known and had a student-teacher relationship with Swami Chinmayananda since 1971 to the day of his death and he was a living example of what you say. I can definately attest to that. He wore himself out for the sake of his fellow beings, not only with regards to teaching Vedanta, but also helping the poor, the sick and the uneducated.
“Mastery” may be of a particular subject or discipline of knowledge and mastery of him/herself. The possibility of someone succumbing to be the master of others is for one who has not yet established in his/her true nature as Fullness Absolute (Ananda). If you know you are complete, you don’t need to control others, because you found out that “others” are only yourself. This is pure love born of true Wisdom.
not all the fruit on a tree is a sweet as the next, some information is useful if you are willing to examine it and compare with other philosophies couple that with experience and you have a true life path.
I am sorry, but this man is not a master, he does not know anything about espiritual sexuality or alchemy.
there is a saying, in the land of blinds, the one eyes is the king, but my 2 eyes are wide open. my intuition and experiences sees thet this man is blindfold.
talks to much, teaches nothing objetive.
Is it a wise man that considers himself to
be a master of others? Or is it our opinion?
What power, position, wealth did ‘masters’ like Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, Mother Teresa enjoy?
It is not so much to be master of others, but
service to others. Not so much to dictate, but dedicate themselves. Not so much to capture kingdoms, but captivate hearts.
Not so much to lead, but love all. Not so
much to get and forget, but give and forgive. Surely, in that sense they all seem masters.
You might ask that question to Jesus or Buddha, since they did just that.
Perhaps it is to prevent human misery, and to
take the seat from the ignorant or charlatans that sometimes offer themselves as teachers.